Compiled Comments on Miss Auburn pageant

Comments made in regard to the Miss Auburn pageant through 6pm Monday, February 4th are assembled here. Due to the Federal Way News site structure, stories are sometimes repeated with different url's (web addresses) on different days. This can lead to the impression that comments are deleted. All comments initially approved for appearance on the site are retained (as are unapproved comments).

Aaron Michael Lang on 02/04/2008 07:52:16 said:

"To add to my last comment... Isn't this a bit HYPORCYTICAL..? It seems that this program is supposed to build personal character. It sure seems like you (contestants) don't find that necessary in life, or to you [PARENTS (mothers)], that you don't care about your daughters maturity.

It seems like it's all about who's better than who, and who gets to "have the crown". It seems a bit odd that I need to point this out - lol! I still laugh at the fact that you mothers (and contestants) are so full of yourselves! You?re trying to get the title Miss USA... right..? Boycotting Cara!? Wow - you all are great, wonderful people I want to represent my country! I don't know names, but I know that only one of you girls congratulated Cara for her win. To everyone else, I have no, and will never respect for you. I am ashamed to say that you, and the people that are "backing" you in this argument are even exist, not to mention try and represent MY COUNTRY!" (from IP: 76.108.105.68 Source - Edit)

What do you rec.? on 02/04/2008 07:48:14 said:

"It looks like the residency issue is still unresolved. The writer of the article did not ask about Cara's home (and for how long) or Cara's current school (and for how long). In addition, the issue with the judging panel looks quite suspect. See for yourself. It is not the norm to have local people judge their own local pageant. There are qualified judges from across this state and outside it if needed. Other pageants manage to do this. Hmmmm Tsk Tsk Miss Auburn (or should we say Miss Federal Way)." (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Lisa G is right on 02/04/2008 07:45:39 said:

"Comments for TODAY's story are missing. By my count, well over 20. The do not appear on any of these links. The comments included quite a bit of feedback on the fact that the majority of the judges were local and that is not TYPICAL in WA state Miss Am. locals. Check the state website. You can read up and find out who all the judges are/have been at every local WA pageant for the past three years!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

goners on 02/04/2008 07:43:40 said:

"I tried all three of the links as suggested and found none of the over 20 missing comments that today's article generated. Hmmm" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

George Dance on 02/04/2008 07:41:12 said:

"From the video: Paul isn't campaigning for a fence, but he doesn't see it as a deal-breaker. What he wants is no amnesty of any kind, and no entitlements of any kind for illegals. While that may not look like a 'hard-core' position, interestingly it's the one that best satisfies the 'hardest' group on this issue, the Minutemen; they've endorsed him in both IA and SC.

" (from IP: 99.244.83.73 Source - Edit)

Lisa Gaughran on 02/04/2008 07:34:39 said:

"I am concerned that the comments on the second story regarding this issue keep disappearing. " (from IP: 24.17.113.200 Source - Edit)

Lisa Gaughran on 02/04/2008 07:32:24 said:

"Editor--the comments that were on here are nowhere to be found. They are not on any of the links you've provided. Here was my comment that disappeared earlier today, soon after this story was released:

"Rudd recently received an Associate of Arts degree from Green River Community College"

How recently?

"The Miss Auburn program's franchise relationship with the Miss America program requires them to offer the "next closest" invitation to those contestants living outside Auburn."

This doesn't make sense. Since the MASP

is supposedly about the Auburn community and the winner giving back to the community by the year of service, why would someone who has no ties to Auburn (via work/school/residency) be allowed in the program? Why would Auburn sponsors and businesses want to contribute?

If the MASP is intended only to be a stepping stone to "bigger and better things" like Miss America, then just admit it and stop misleading the participants and the Auburn community.

" (from IP: 24.17.113.200 Source - Edit)

Aaron on 02/04/2008 07:26:51 said:

"wow-

From reading this, it sounds like a lot of jealus mothers of this years contestants.

First off, get over yourselfes. What happened, did. Remember: there is next year.

Seccond, Cara did nothing to deserve this. She is a wonderful person, that apparently appealed to the judges better that yourselfes (or your daughters).

Third, I can say this because I know Cara. Myself, Mr. Brown and Mr. Lang are friends of hers. I do not say the above just because I know her, but because I can see what is happening here. The fact that some of you KNOW that you might get a bad name for slamming a contestant on no grounds at all, means something. (do you get the point... Or will I be getting slammed as well for speaking the truth..?)

Last, Mr. Lang and Mr. Brown don't need slamming, for the same reason. You are jealus, and can't get over the fact that you, or your daughters were beaten in a contest.

Also, do not ask stupid things like, "Who is Aaron" etc. Read this again, and don't be stupid." (from IP: 76.108.105.68 Source - Edit)

Lisa Gaughran on 02/04/2008 07:05:27 said:

"I'm wondering what happened to the many comments already made regarding this story (this story here, not the original one). EDITORS NOTE: Due to our site structure...stories get different names on different days and weeks. Very few comments have been left out...and none that were posted have been deleted. Look for them at one of these three URLs. http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/02/04/news/local_news/story01.txt The original story in two spots over two weeks http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/14/news/local_news/story02.txt http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/26/news/local_news/story05.txt " (from IP: 24.17.113.200 Source - Edit)

Oh my . . . on 02/04/2008 06:55:56 said:

"No public comments left here? All gone? All deleted! Powerful people indeed. EDITORS NOTE: Due to our site structure...stories get different names on different days and weeks. Very few comments have been left out...and none that were posted have been deleted. Look for them at one of these three URLs. http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/02/04/news/local_news/story01.txt The original story in two spots over two weeks http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/14/news/local_news/story02.txt http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/26/news/local_news/story05.txt " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Attender of Pageant on 02/04/2008 06:47:20 said:

"This is truly a sick situation. My understanding of the Pageant is that a main part is to develop character and good citizenship in our young ladies. My daughter competed and had a great time even not winning. If all of the 23 girls really believe that character counts, they should reject any notion of "Boycotting Cara". Never let someone else's bad behavior cause you to sink to their level. There is never a ood reason to do a bad thing." (from IP: 24.18.23.26 Source - Edit)

Miss Ing on 02/04/2008 06:43:40 said:

"where are the comments now? EDITORS NOTE: Due to our site structure...stories get different names on different days and weeks. Very few comments have been left out...and none that were posted have been deleted. Look for them at one of these three URLs. http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/02/04/news/local_news/story01.txt The original story in two spots over two weeks http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/14/news/local_news/story02.txt http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/26/news/local_news/story05.txt " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

As If on 02/04/2008 06:41:56 said:

"Any of this really matters! Come on people get a life!" (from IP: 24.18.8.25 Source - Edit)

to the journalist: on 02/04/2008 06:37:43 said:

"There were many of the girls very upset about the way they felt the judges decided the next Miss Auburn. The fact is, Cara is a graduate of SPU and the only contestant who has completed her undergraduate education. There were many girls in the competition who have competed for the Miss Auburn titles for Several years and who were more deserving of the crown than her. Now the common resident may feel that this is merely pageant drama but there were many girls who really believe in their platforms and have worked a lot harder and are of better character than Miss Rudd. There were girls in the pageant who are living and breathing the Miss Auburn Mission and continue to do so year after year. I feel that while yes her residency did raise a few hands, the conflict with Miss Rudd was more based on her backstage attitude and inability to show a good nature towards her fellow competitors. In a pageant such as this, if you do not walk away with anything material, you should at least walk away with solid friendships that last a lifetime. Miss Rudd certainly did not. " (from IP: 75.172.71.12 Source - Edit)

other pageants on 02/04/2008 06:33:30 said:

"Some of us may be asking about the judges because we were at a different pageant that night! Duh! Do you or do you not want support?" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

play the game on 02/04/2008 06:30:55 said:

"Yep, this is how it works. Get someone to notice you; they invite you to their pageant. They handpick the judges; they get the outcome they want. The only problem is it can backfire like it is now and then not only will the titleholder suffer at state, but some of these people in charge will surely face some sort of discipinary action. Did you say some of them hold city offices? Tsk, tsk!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Awesome on 02/04/2008 06:30:21 said:

"All the comments are gone... sweet EDITORS NOTE: Due to our site structure...stories get different names on different days and weeks. Very few comments have been left out...and none that were posted have been deleted. Look for them at one of these three URLs. http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/02/04/news/local_news/story01.txt The original story in two spots over two weeks http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/14/news/local_news/story02.txt http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/26/news/local_news/story05.txt " (from IP: 134.39.100.71 Source - Edit)

play the game on 02/04/2008 06:22:51 said:

"Yep, this is how it works. Get someone to notice you; they invite you to their pageant. They handpick the judges; they get the outcome they want. The only problem is it can backfire like it is now and then not only will the titleholder suffer at state, but some of these people in charge will surely face some sort of discipinary action. Did you say some of them hold city offices? Tsk, tsk!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

I'm sorry, but... on 02/04/2008 06:19:12 said:

"simc2008... So does that mean that we need to disregard any comments that she has made to us. Or anything that she has done to hurt our feelings. If that is the case.. then you have fun with that. But she will not be getting away easily with this one." (from IP: 134.39.100.71 Source - Edit)

Tina on 02/04/2008 06:17:58 said:

"Bad move on the judges. Way too close for comfort. Unethical may be an understatement." (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Miss WA on 02/04/2008 06:16:47 said:

"She was at the Miss GH pageant. She can still have an opinion however!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Miss Understanding on 02/04/2008 06:15:44 said:

"Yes, the judging panel seems suspect at best. Too many locals. I haven't seen a list with that many locals ever! The owner of a local restaurant, someone from the board, a local city councilman etc. Yuck! There are qualified judges from across the state who would be willing to travel. This just invites scrutiny and complaints. This is the story that needs to written. Also ask the questions about where she lives (and for how long) and where she attends school (and for how long). Duh! " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

miss auburn on 02/04/2008 06:12:02 said:

"Oooh, the judging panel! WAY to close to the girls/local connections. To avoid this, most of the reputable programs bring in OUTSIDERS (easily accomplished) from other towns or even out of state at times! That's right - locals shouldn't judge LOCAL pageants, DUH. Thank you to the thoughtful person who posted the judges names. Sounds like your ED is way out of line. Questionable ethics at best. Sloppy if not intentional." (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

NO on 02/04/2008 06:05:14 said:

"Oh no, this program has been wonderful, it's just this year and the dirtyness involved" (from IP: 134.39.100.71 Source - Edit)

judges on 02/04/2008 06:02:16 said:

"To those of you asking who the judges were, aren't they listed in your program? " (from IP: 192.254.1.7 Source - Edit)

Outsider on 02/04/2008 05:53:13 said:

"I Just happened to run across this blog.

After reading all the comments, I have a question for everyone involved is this: Is the goal to ruin/end this program or correct the problem? It sounds like those who want to correct the problem (both parents and contestants) don't care whether the pageant goes down in flames in the process. To an outsider reading the comments, it appears that this pageant must not be a very good program anyway.

Too bad, I think that it could have been a great opportunity for young women to further their individual education and community success." (from IP: 67.173.231.211 Source - Edit)

To Nancy on 02/04/2008 05:42:08 said:

"Really known of the judges knew us?

How can you say that when Miss Auburn 1997, Amy Crawford, was OUR JUDGE!

You are such an idiot.

Keep those lies going to cover up your other lies!

The judges were:

David Allen owner of Longhorn BBQ

Amy Crawford Miss Auburn 1997 and Miss WA USA 2005

J. Cameron Cutler

"Cam" Served on Miss Auburn committee

Lynn Norman Auburn City Council

Ron Taylor Miss Auburn past juage and friend to Nancy

Bob White Highly involved with WA pageants

Isn't it funny how they are all connected. THey are not ramdom. No Nancy hand selected them. " (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

Allyson on 02/04/2008 05:36:15 said:

"I appreciated your article, but was concerned with how you portrayed Ron Paul's immigration stance: "Paul wants a wall built..." In the following interview, Ron Paul was quoted as saying he didn't like the idea of a fence.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/01/ron_paul_on_immigration.html

I believe he has held to this position in other articles as well.

Although every campaign has its fringe element (and the cause of liberty often attracts the most diverse and thus controversial group of followers), there are now instances of people posing as Ron Paul supporters, posting racist, anti-semitic remarks online and associating gross untruths with his name. This has been done by some in a blatant attempt to smear Ron Paul's campaign in the last forum of free ideas, the internet.

Please know that this comment is not a negative reflection on you at all, because I believe you do have a sincere voice and want to help further that for which Ron Paul and the campaign stand. Ron Paul has such integrity that his opponents cannot sling any real mud; they have to resort to back-door undermining. Every bit of truth counts.

Keep up the great work and sounding out the truth!" (from IP: 72.171.0.146 Source - Edit)

simc2008 on 02/04/2008 05:34:43 said:

"im praying this all will end.. i was a contestant this year and cara no matter what her character is still has feelings and shouldn't be bashed like this so girls lets stop we are better than this." (from IP: 24.22.185.184 Source - Edit)

one title holder to another on 02/04/2008 05:30:40 said:

"miss washington yes if it is you thank you for attending. and since you did not keep your thoughts to yourself!" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

RE: Blogs from Nancy, SHUT UP on 02/04/2008 05:27:22 said:

"Bill is "Select" and Nancy put a "new story" here is the link that the Federal Way news gave.

http://federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/02/04/news/local_news/story01.txt

Sour Grapes?

Nancy we don't care what you ate for breakfast. Get over yourself!" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

To: Ally Cole on 02/04/2008 05:23:50 said:

"With the cleaning of house, we all hope it will return to the way it was for you as well.

Keep praying for all of us." (from IP: 74.92.166.132 Source - Edit)

To clarify on 02/04/2008 05:23:39 said:

"It is known by a hand full of contestants that Cara did lie in her practice interviews at Emerald Downs.

She said that she volunteered at an elementary on hill. Yes, well as of last Monday Donna Hamilton took time off work to take Cara to volunteer. Donna you to are trying to cover things as well.

I know for fact that Cara came to your home first to perform for you and Mike. Not for special interview coaching no that came later. She had dinner with you and Mike and performed for you. What is that about?

" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

Miss Auburn 2010 on 02/04/2008 05:23:28 said:

"That's right, I've already got it planned to buy that title!!! Plan: Be rude to everyone, pick a song that fits me.. like one that has... i'm wicked through and through... as lyrics, and step on a lot of people to get there! who's 2009? (I would be 2009, but it'd be an insult to be crowned by her...and 2011 sounds funny)" (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

to another contestant: on 02/04/2008 05:21:49 said:

"To another contestant:

Of course Nancy is going to back-pedal !

She has everything to lose, including her job with the city of Auburn. She has lied about many things within the pageant. Now the truth is catching up with her.

She is directly connected with many of the council people that worked on the pageant, and well as Mayor Pete Lewis.

Well Pete, this ads a whole new meaning to your city motto: "Auburn, it's more than you imagined !"

No kidding, it is the next 2008 watergate type cover-up of South King county.

Please note: We'll all remember the people involved with the paeant at election time.

I will be the first one out with protest signs of the names of these people, to remind the City of Auburn, of the crooks we currently are employing.

Cheers!

" (from IP: 74.92.166.132 Source - Edit)

Ally Cole - Miss Auburn 2000 on 02/04/2008 05:13:39 said:

"First, please allow me to congratulate all of the girls that competed this year. You were phenomenal!

I have had the extreme pleasure and honor to serve as Miss Auburn 2000. I wanted to take a moment to express my love and appreciation for this program, this city, the Auburn citizens and all involved with this program. The volunteers and board members are truly amazing individuals and they dedicate countless of volunteer hours to improve the lives of young women in and around our community. At the very least, I know that they have made such a positive impact on mine.

I am currently a small business owner in the city of Auburn and a sponsor of the program because I support what the program stands for, not because of the individual holding the title. I will continue to support Miss Auburn with my time and money because of the positive impact it has made on me and the future impact it will make on others. I would not be the woman I am today without those that surrounded and taught me in that year?all of whom, are still involved in the pageant almost a decade later (saying that makes me feel old ?.)

My family specifically contributes a scholarship to the ?Most Inspirational? contestant, which was given to Leilani Neilson. What an excellent recipient for this award! By donating this money to this specific title, it is my way and my family?s way of recognizing a young woman for more than their talent and beauty. This program is amazing for recognizing more than the crown with its numerous awards and scholarships, as so many other pageants simply have a minimal scholarship for those that walk away as the title holder. That is what makes this community great!

I did not know many of the girls personally this year, including Cara, so I do not care to speculate about character, but I do know that I am extremely proud of all of them for running and I am so thankful to the Auburn community for supporting this pageant and allowing these girls to earn scholarship dollars to become educated women that will one day, hopefully, give back to the Auburn community. It is absolutely remarkable that we were able to come together to give all 24 young women the opportunity gain a portion of the $75-80K+ raised this year. I am continually in awe of the generosity and passion that the Auburn community has.

Like I said, I do not know Cara personally but I can only pray that Auburn?s passion and generosity spills over so that she (or whoever holds the title) has no choice but to become a true supporter and believer in the community of Auburn and what it stands for. I have every faith that the Miss Auburn committee and community will express and teach the values that Auburn expects its reigning title holder to embrace to Cara and every future queen. And if they are smart young women, they will welcome these lessons with open arms. I know that I entered my year as Miss Auburn a very na?ve 17 year old and I had to be taught what Auburn was truly about and what the title of Miss Auburn really meant. This committee is AMAZING at emphasizing the community values to the current queen. The committee taught me that my first duty and obligation was to the community of Auburn and they would support me on my journey to state but they always emphasized that this title was so much more than a stepping stone to Miss WA. I trust they will do the same this year.

On a separate note, I also hope that the other 23 girls know that on a different day with a different set of judges the outcome may have been different and I hope they know that I, as a past Miss Auburn and sponsor, am SOOOO proud of them because they have accomplished and experienced something that very few get to. I pray that no matter who holds the title, you look back at your experience and ties with the Miss Auburn program with as much fondness as I do. I pray that the months leading up to the crowning taught you patience, poise, and gratitude, as they taught me. I pray that you can use your scholarship money to make yourself a strong and educated woman and that you, one day, can give back to another organization in the same way this community gave to you.

I understand that there are many emotions involved in this debate and I understand that many people will take issue with my words and disagree with what I say, perhaps even attack me personally. My name is attached to this message and I am human?I am not perfect and my words are far from ideal but they come from my heart. I wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude and pride for this program. I am so proud of my title (even if it was 8 years ago) and I am so proud of the Auburn community.

I pray that this controversy and hardship will only make us stronger as a community and family.

" (from IP: 209.191.166.202 Source - Edit)

another idiot on 02/04/2008 05:02:58 said:

"We all went into the program with a clean slate. Some of us knew the other girls from school or the previous year. After those months of spending time with every contestant, it became very clear on what kind of person she was. So the statement we all made at the coronation was not because she was unpopular, but all of the drama that had swarmed around her since the 2nd practice. It continued to escalade as the time continued. The problem is, is that she never belonged in the Miss Auburn Program. Not because of living boundaries.. that's just contract. But because the Miss Auburn Program prides itself on bettering the lives of a handful of women each year. This is not a place to "pageant hop" to. I did not once see her gain anything from this program. She left the way she came in. And every other girl has left with more confidence in themeselves and outstanding interview skills that you can definitely see. She has left with Laura's Crown and scholarship money. She's already set, why does she need the money?" (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

Blogs? on 02/04/2008 05:01:56 said:

"Hilarious! Where can we see Nancy and Bill's blogs? I could use a good laugh." (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

what????? on 02/04/2008 04:59:46 said:

"I don't think anyone was implying that she bought off the judges. I think the money in question was about donations to the local organization itself? Or the state org? Hmmmm Not saying that that's what happened; just that that is what some people seem to be asserting." (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

to you observer on 02/04/2008 04:58:24 said:

"cara is not well liked becasue of her character ... the emotional turmoil she has caused with contestants can never be fully expresed .. there aren't enough words... this isnt a populairty contest.. thats a different system. Please try to understand that some people have 2 sides and she showed her other side when the curtain went down." (from IP: 24.22.185.184 Source - Edit)

question on 02/04/2008 04:56:45 said:

"If there were questions re: Miss Rudd why were they not addressed BEFORE the pageant? Or maybe they were and no one would answer. I don't know. I am just wondering. The writer of the above news story needs to ask the questions to obtain the facts. Where does she live (for the past six months), where does she currently attend school (and for how long has she attended), who were the judges? These seem like fair and reasonable questions that would address the issue. None of these were addressed however!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Nancy, SHUT UP! on 02/04/2008 04:54:14 said:

"Nancy,

Your "updated story" means NOTHING. You have shown in the last 24 hours with your blog and having Bill blog that YOU and YOUR organization lack ACCOUNTABILITY and INTEGRITY! I have changed my mind about you. I used to look up to you as a town hero and role model. Not anymore, especially not now.

You are trying to cover your a*s after the fact.

Well can't wait to see you again.

Please keep up with your current events as you will be the top story. You should be ashamed of yourself. You love Laura and I saw that. Lucky loves Laura and I saw that. Nancy, you snake you! " (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

no no dear editor on 02/04/2008 04:54:13 said:

"We are referring to several comments incl. one attributed to Miss Auburn 2000! Where did these go? Editor's Note There are several stories to which comments have been attached. Due to our online structure their file names are similar but from different dates.Specifically, the same story was posted in a different sequence on the site resulting in a different file name ie' story05.txt vs story02.txt. We posted our updated story to provide more "breathing room" for comments. Nothing has been removed that was approved for posting despite the somewhat questionable nature of many of the comments. http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/14/news/local_news/story02.txt " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

missing comments from miss on 02/04/2008 04:53:18 said:

"Yes, where did all of the other comments on this site go? There was a nice, lengthy response from a former Miss Auburn in particular. Are these being deleted? Why? Editor's Note> There are several stories to which comments have been attached. Due to our online structure their file names are similar but from different dates.Specifically, the same story was posted in a different sequence on the site resulting in a different file name ie' story05.txt vs story02.txt. We posted our updated story to provide more "breathing room" for comments. Nothing has been removed that was approved for posting despite the somewhat questionable nature of many of the comments. http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/14/news/local_news/story02.txt" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

an Interested Observer on 02/04/2008 04:50:00 said:

" I watched both nights, amazed at how 25 young women could be brave and savvy enough to "strut their stuff" Yes, I could see more talent and ability in some, Rudd included; but the reaction of the audience at the end left me bewildered. I too was shocked and amazed at the outcome of the pageant. I have never seen a more pitifull display of poor sportsmanship at a childrens BALLFIELD. It is no wonder pageants, their contestants, AND parents get stereotyped. Weren't we their to support our ladies win or lose? We knew there would be only one winner, did you go home and tell your daughter "She (Ms. Rudd) shouldn't have won?" or, "She shouldn't have been allowed to compete!" I have never met Ms. Rudd, she showed poise and talent both nights. From the comments at the theater, she wasn't very well liked. Maybe you, who don't like her, should go back to having popularity contests, that's what most people stereotype beauty pageants as anyway. In life, your going to lose more often than you win; shame on you parents who don't teach your children how to lose graciously, even to someone you dislike.

I hope the 'Miss.Auburn' folks are able to continue their good works in providing the city and community a well-run and valuable service.

" (from IP: 64.65.191.226 Source - Edit)

YEAH on 02/04/2008 04:45:58 said:

"LAURA HENG THE TRUE MISS AUBURN 2008" (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

Dear Seth, on 02/04/2008 04:45:50 said:

"Ask the questions! Who were the judges? Where does the young lady live (for the past 6 mo) and where does she attend school? These questions will solve the riddle. It is elementary. Either she is playing by the rules or not. Her closest pageeant may have been Miss Seattle! That is what people may be upset about." (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

To Another Contestant on 02/04/2008 04:44:37 said:

"'How is it that you are blind to the horrible behavior over the past several months with Cara?'

-I was never around the contestants enough to see questionable behavior. Having a large dose of self-confidence and self-assurance, I suppose, can make a person, especially a female, come across as less-than-friendly.

'Breaking of several rules'

-According to the MASP President, Nancy Backus, she did not violate any rules in place. Read the newest article.

'and special treatment.'

-I am unaware of special treatment. I am aware that she took up opportunities that were offered to all participants.

'I don't know how you can ignore truths from your other contestants?'

-I'm looking at it like this: Many women in powerful positions (granted, Miss Auburn isn't exactly a Senator or a governor or a candidate for presidency or the CEO of a Fortune 500 company) didn't get that way by being warm and cuddly. They had to be assertive and go for it and possibly make a few enemies along the way.

'We are not upset they we didn't win. It is about honesty and integrity, or lack there of.'

-I know there are some girls who are upset they didn't win. I know there are some girls who are relieved they didn't win. I know most, if not all, of the girls are upset that SHE won. I can't comment on her honesty or integrity. I've only briefly met her a few times.

'As for me, the program has been very benficial personally. I have gained confidence, poise, grace, and the ability to spot B.S. when I see it.'

-I am pleased to see that you are aware of the benefits you have received. If it comes out that she has, in fact, not broken any rules, will you display that grace and poise? If she has, indeed, broken the rules, I can't blame you or any one of the other angry contestants for the vitriol in these responses.

" (from IP: 192.254.1.7 Source - Edit)

hmmm on 02/04/2008 04:44:30 said:

"Please do not insult our intelligence by stating that she was an outstanding person and there was no skullduggery going on. Anyone else would have been dismissed immediately. Her profile changed in a day so that your reasoning of her not breaking any contract because you can go to her page and it's all on there, is false. HER LINK ON THE NEWS POST IS TO HER PAGE, NOT THE HOMEPAGE. I have had a lot of faith in this program, but you have lost it. It has never been about ME winning or any other of the 23 outstanding girls winning, it's about the fairness of this program. She has done a lot of unforgiveable things in the past and this year in the program. I will not be congratulating her at the award ceremony. Also, the opportunity to get together with board members was only offered publicly the last week before the final interviews. Only the returning girls and her knew about this opportunity before hand. I do not remember there ever being such a big deal about who won before. And please get it through your head that no on is jealous. We all know that Laura Heng is the true Miss Auburn 2008. Believe me, if Cara quits because of not winning Miss Washington and Laura has to step in, I guarantee you, there will be more than just dropping sponsors and supporters of the program, the program may fail to exist. I hope in the time you have to spend with her you are treated the same way every other contestant has been treated by her. Not just some, EVERY girl. " (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

What???? on 02/04/2008 04:43:50 said:

"Where did all of the comments go? Esp. the one from former Miss Auburn 2000? Something is up! Editors Note Comments on the original story can be found here: http://www.federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/01/26/news/local_news/story05.txt " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

out of towner on 02/04/2008 04:38:17 said:

"Oh you simply must be mistaken! This type of issue has never reared its ugly head in our perfect pageant system! I am so shocked and appalled. We have never had different rules for some contestants. We have been the paragon of excellence. " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

miss washington on 02/04/2008 04:30:33 said:

"It's a stepping stone to bigger and better things!

ha ha ha

I think there is a residency issue and this is not the first time in our state!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

in all fairness on 02/04/2008 04:26:24 said:

"Who were the judges? Give us the names!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Ally Cole - Miss Auburn 2000 on 02/04/2008 04:25:56 said:

"First, please allow me to congratulate all of the girls that competed this year. You were phenomenal!

I have had the extreme pleasure and honor to serve as Miss Auburn 2000. I wanted to take a moment to express my love and appreciation for this program, this city, the Auburn citizens and all involved with this program. The volunteers and board members are truly amazing individuals and they dedicate countless of volunteer hours to improve the lives of young women in and around our community. At the very least, I know that they have made such a positive impact on mine.

I am currently a small business owner in the city of Auburn and a sponsor of the program because I support what the program stands for, not because of the individual holding the title. I will continue to support Miss Auburn with my time and money because of the positive impact it has made on me and the future impact it will make on others. I would not be the woman I am today without those that surrounded and taught me in that year?all of whom, are still involved in the pageant almost a decade later (saying that makes me feel old :).)

My family specifically contributes a scholarship to the ?Most Inspirational? contestant, which was given to Leilani Neilson. What an excellent recipient for this award! By donating this money to this specific title, it is my way and my family?s way of recognizing a young woman for more than their talent and beauty. This program is amazing for recognizing more than the crown with its numerous awards and scholarships, as so many other pageants simply have a minimal scholarship for those that walk away as the title holder. That is what makes this community great!

I did not know many of the girls personally this year, including Cara, so I do not care to speculate about character, but I do know that I am extremely proud of all of them for running and I am so thankful to the Auburn community for supporting this pageant and allowing these girls to earn scholarship dollars to become educated women that will one day, hopefully, give back to the Auburn community. It is absolutely remarkable that we were able to come together to give all 24 young women the opportunity gain a portion of the $75-80K+ raised this year. I am continually in awe of the generosity and passion that the Auburn community has.

Like I said, I do not know Cara personally but I can only pray that Auburn?s passion and generosity spills over so that she (or whoever holds the title) has no choice but to become a true supporter and believer in the community of Auburn and what it stands for. I have every faith that the Miss Auburn committee and community will express and teach the values that Auburn expects its reigning title holder to embrace to Cara and every future queen. And if they are smart young women, they will welcome and embrace these lessons with open arms. I know that I entered my year as Miss Auburn a very na?ve 17 year old and I had to be taught what Auburn was truly about and what the title of Miss Auburn really meant. This committee is AMAZING at emphasizing those points to the current queen. The committee taught me that my first duty and obligation was to this amazing community and they would support me on my journey to state but they always emphasized that this title was so much more than a stepping stone to state. I trust they will do the same this year.

On a separate note, I also hope that the other 23 girls know that on a different day with a different set of judges the outcome may have been different and I hope they know that I, as a past Miss Auburn and sponsor, am SOOOO proud of them because they have accomplished and experienced something that very few get to. I pray that no matter who holds the title, you look back at your experience and ties with the Miss Auburn program with as much fondness as I do. I pray that the months leading up to the crowning taught you patience, poise, and gratitude, as they taught me. I pray that you can use your scholarship money to make yourself a strong and educated woman and that you, one day, can give back to another organization in the same way this community gave to you.

I understand that there are many emotions involved in this debate and I understand that many people will take issue with my words and disagree with what I say, perhaps even attack me personally. I am human?I am not perfect and my words are far from perfect but I wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude and pride for this program. I am so proud of my title (even if it was 8 years ago) and I am so proud of the Auburn community.

" (from IP: 209.191.166.202 Source - Edit)

help on 02/04/2008 04:25:35 said:

"Seriously. who is Dan Lang? Are we supposed to know him? Is he famous? Is he a (gasp) judge? Please report on who the judges were!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Miss Federal Way on 02/04/2008 04:21:42 said:

"Woohoo! Cara Rudd for Federal Way. Just change the title. Now are you happy?" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Auburn citizen on 02/04/2008 04:20:42 said:

"She looks like a cute, talented gal. She has been in broadway productions. She will probably do a great job. I don't think it is going to hurt the city. " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Miss Federal Way on 02/04/2008 04:19:10 said:

"Hey, Auburn, why don't you award 2 crowns like you used to? One could be Miss Auburn and one could be Miss Federal Way. Wouldn't that be neato? I mean if Miss Grays Harbor can award 2 with only 11 girls running, why not? LOL (and yeah, I know GH didn't do it this year CAUSE they only had 9 girls)" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Lisa Gaughran on 02/04/2008 04:18:58 said:

""Rudd recently received an Associate of Arts degree from Green River Community College"

Just how recently?

"... requires them to offer the "next closest" invitation to those contestants living outside Auburn."

This makes no sense. If the MASP is supposed to be about the community of Auburn, and giving back to the community by the year of service, then why on earth would Auburn sponsors want to contribute to someone who not only doesn't live/work/go to school in Auburn, but has no desire to do so?

If MASP is only to be a stepping stone for "bigger and better things", then just come out and say so, and stop misleading the Auburn community.

" (from IP: 24.17.113.200 Source - Edit)

FEDERAL WAY NEWS WEB EDITOR on 02/04/2008 04:13:46 said:

"PLEASE READ THE UPDATED STORY AND POST YOUR COMMENTS THERE.

http://federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/02/04/news/local_news/story01.txt

" (from IP: 71.231.44.11 Source - Edit)

Miss Seattle on 02/04/2008 04:13:44 said:

"yeah, she COULD have run in Seattle except she already lost there! I doubt that they were inviting her to return!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Auburn fan on 02/04/2008 04:13:01 said:

"Her resume page is hilarious. She lists every scholarship from every little "college" she was offered. Duh! I would only list scholarships that I was able to accept! Silly girl! " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

outsider on 02/04/2008 04:11:53 said:

"I think they said that she had grad. from SPU????

" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

fan of pageants on 02/04/2008 04:11:16 said:

"Sounds like Cara Rudd did a great job and won fair and square. The director has answered all the questions from the paper. What else do people want? It sounds like residency issues werre addressed, right?" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

CrapHole America on 02/04/2008 04:10:35 said:

"Firstly, Mr. Lang get a life or better yet a job. What are you doing posting on this site at all hours of the day! And she's not even your devil, I mean daughter. Secondly Congrats to the other 23 contestants, I know that you've had to put up with a lot of "junk" these past few months. Good luck and HAKUNA MATA B*tches! " (from IP: 66.194.72.10 Source - Edit)

Another contestant from Miss Auburn on 02/04/2008 04:06:04 said:

"Dear program volunteer 12:05 pm,

What were you smoking? How is it that you are blind to the horrible behavior over the past several months with Cara?

Breaking of several rules, and special treatment. I don't know how you can ignore truths from your other contestants?

We are not upset they we didn't win. It is about honesty and integrity, or lack there of.

As for me, the program has been very benficial personally. I have gained confidence, poise, grace, and the ability to spot B.S. when I see it.

Thanks for the insight into the real world of Miss Auburn." (from IP: 74.92.166.132 Source - Edit)

seattle gal on 02/04/2008 04:03:32 said:

"She could have chosen to run in Seattle pageant since she is attending SPU?" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Potential Out Of Towner Response: on 02/04/2008 03:58:54 said:

"Potential out of towner/contestant:

You go girl!

All 23 women are on your side.

It doesn't make sense, does it?

I tell you, the board writes the rules as they go.

Why should we even be obligated to sign the Miss America contract? They don't follow it !" (from IP: 74.92.166.132 Source - Edit)

Sick and Tired. on 02/04/2008 03:55:24 said:

"Naked ??

We understand all of us needed to change our clothes several times.

However, What was gross for all the contestants, and especially the Little Sisters, who are very vulnerable, was that Cara wanted to make sure we all saw her bikini line on her private area, several times.

Sick!" (from IP: 74.92.166.132 Source - Edit)

FEDERAL WAY NEWS WEB EDITOR on 02/04/2008 03:45:24 said:

"Please read the updated story and post your comments.

http://federalwaynews.net/articles/2008/02/04/news/local_news/story01.txt

" (from IP: 71.231.44.11 Source - Edit)

to everyone on 02/04/2008 03:44:31 said:

" toyou who is"agree" the program does go into schools.this is how they choose little sisters... The program s made available to all little girls in 3rd grade the little girls are offered the chance and write an essay on why they want to be mentored then chosen based on those essays.... yes they sometimes get an in if they are related to a board member but they never turn another deservng girl away just because the other girl is participating. It really is a great program i speak from experience... i come from a successfull family ... but there is no college education and believe me when i say there was struggles. This programs reputation for little sisters should not be in question.

" (from IP: 67.183.32.133 Source - Edit)

agree on 02/04/2008 03:30:42 said:

"I agree that the pageant could do a better job of selecting little girls as little sisters. What about going to local schools and asking teachers to rec. girls that could benefit from extra attention/mentoring? As a former pageant contestant, I would love to see this change. It shoudn't be about the little girl's last name. It is supposed to be a service activity for the contestants to help mentor a young one (not just a little girl whose mommy is on the board). Also we should welcome views from people outside the system. Miss America IS trying to become modern." (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

to ummmm on 02/04/2008 03:04:28 said:

"AS A PREVIOUS LITTLE SISTER I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM AND APOLOGIZE IF I JUMPED TO CONCLUSIONS. However, unless you are involved in the program , i dont feel you have enough information to make a judgement based on the little girls involved in the program. I personally know many of the girls and their circumstances... many of them do fit the scenario you mentioned. I dont wish to give low blows or insult you personally but please dont critisize the program if you personally have not been touched or involved within it . Thankyou" (from IP: 67.183.32.133 Source - Edit)

Naked?? on 02/04/2008 02:19:10 said:

"Yes, every single girl in the program was naked at least once in this experience, but we all had the decency to put our clothes ON instead of walking around naked for a half an hour at a time!! Theater or not, I'm pretty sure they don't walk around naked for that long. Quick changes are always important, not quick undresses." (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

In it to win it! on 02/04/2008 02:17:05 said:

"Hmmm . . .not what the NEW Miss America program on TLC is trying to sell. I agree! She is a "pageant patty"!

Lipstick - $12.50

Haircut - $85.00

Buying your way to Miss WA - priceless" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

ummmmm on 02/04/2008 02:13:42 said:

"Wow, clearly you could have used the mentoring and college education as well. Spell check much? The comment (if read carefully) was in response to the selection of the little girls who are the little sisters of contestants. Most of the time, they are from families who have the financial resources to provide all kinds of nurturing, mentoring opportunities (music lessons, dance lessons etc.). My timely comment was intended to remind the program of the opportunity to reach out to those little girls who don't have those same opportunities. Do you really want to argue with this point? If so, please run your comments through spell check." (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

i was a potential out of towner on 02/04/2008 02:06:16 said:

"I have always wanted to run in the auburn program but when i called about an interview i was told that it would be pointess for me to interview because yes i could compete but because auburn is such an involved and close community they would make it so that i could not win in other words they wouldn't let me win b/c i was from kirkland.... eventhough i was enrolling at grcc.... i was turned away and had to go to another local program even further away... WHY IS IT THAT A GIRL IN MY SAME CIRCUMSTANCES WAS ALLOWED IN AND GIVEN THE CROWN?

Miss auburn's rep will forever be tarnished for me and my family. Hypocrites" (from IP: 67.183.32.133 Source - Edit)

A program volunteer on 02/04/2008 02:05:21 said:

"I am dismayed at how events have unfolded since the moment of coronation.

First, our board is comprised of individuals who have given COUNTLESS hours, months, years of time as volunteers because they believe in the ultimate goal of getting these girls scholarship monies and a chance to better themselves in preparation for their futures. I have firsthand seen so much growth in so many girls both within a single MASP season and over the course of multiple seasons.

When they get over their anger and are able to look back at their time this year, regardless of the outcome and how they feel about it, they will all realize that not only did they come out with anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars for their education, but INVALUABLE interview skills, greater poise and increased self-confidence that they wouldn't otherwise have.

I am proud of ALL of the girls. They are all talented.

Ms. Rudd came across to me as a polished professional young woman who was not in the program to make friends, she was in it to win it. She is assertive and intelligent. She is talented, she interviews well, she looked beautiful in her lifestyle/fitness and eveningwear. Keep in mind that she was among the oldest, if not the oldest, and has been out of high school for several years now, so her head's in a different place from the younger contestants.

As for the nude thing, she's been involved in professional theater, and that's what professional performers do...they don't have time for modesty. I know that from experience.

If she chooses to retain her title, or is permitted to retain it, I wish her luck and hope she will be a great ambassador for the program.

I am sad for the girls who didn't win. I am sad for Cara. I am sad for the board members who are being attacked. I am sad for the integrity of the MASP being questioned. I will still support the program because the girls do get so much out of it.

While I understand the outrage, I am disappointed by the lack of grace portrayed by many of the girls who did not win. I wish I could remember the quote of a guest speaker at one of the MASP events who spoke of grace. It would serve us all well at all times to display grace in the face of adversity, of anger, of disappointment.

I hope that the Miss Auburn Scholarship Program comes out of this intact and that it will continue for years to come because it has provided so much for countless young women over the years. It saddens me to think that it will be tarnished. We had just topped ourselves as the local with the largest funds awarded in the country, something to be so proud of, at over $80,000 scholarship dollars! It is my fervent hope we will recover from this chaos and move forward intact. " (from IP: 192.254.1.7 Source - Edit)

to ummm on 02/04/2008 02:03:15 said:

"regarding "ummms" comment ... don not ven begin to think that young women from single parent homes are the only girls who deserve mentorrship or need help paying for college.... and you should really take a look at the program ... the majority of girls this year found their gowns and wear at goodwill, borrowed , bartered etc. You are completly uneducated for making the comment you did... in today's society there are not very many respectable young women.. we are a rare breed... so any woman that enters this program.. rich or poor is mentored and walks out a changed woman... as a girl who has competed in the miss america system for almost 5 years i can say that each year i have grown and it is completly credited to this system. AGAIN please stop critisizing the 23 girls who actually followed the rules and represent this city properly. I do think cara has good intentions but all these comments about her are not out of jelousy but out of pure dissapointement for our city." (from IP: 67.183.32.133 Source - Edit)

player? on 02/04/2008 02:02:30 said:

"If Cara Rudd is such a talented "player" for Miss WA title, then why didn't Seattle want her? She has run how many times in how many locals? Trust me, player she is not. Miss America is looking for fresh - not a stale pageant Patty. Auburn just found themselves a 21 year old Patty. Miss America is 19! Good luck. Like the other post says, Rudd is now officially 'poison' at Miss WA. They will snub her; she should have saved her money!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

JEALOUSY on 02/04/2008 01:56:38 said:

"YEAH, I'M JEALOUS.. I WISH I WAS A BACKSTABBING, COLD HEARTED, UNDESERVING, CRAZY PERSON. Nothing that has ever escaped her swift talking mouth has ever been genuine... I wish that some day, I can grow up to be just like her!!! I hope that day comes soon because I can hardly wait! I get goosebumps just thinking about it!" (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

Seattle resident on 02/04/2008 01:43:12 said:

"We can smell your dirty politics and corruption all the way here in Seattle.

The Miss Auburn program will take years to get over this scandal. Please don't insult our intelligence by telling us this was not a set up from the start.

The other 23 girls deserve better." (from IP: 70.58.79.201 Source - Edit)

To Lady Advisor: on 02/04/2008 01:38:57 said:

"More documentation, that there is truely a problem !

Thanks for confirming to us." (from IP: 74.92.166.132 Source - Edit)

umm on 02/04/2008 01:36:51 said:

"Back in the old days, we didn't need a little sister program to recruit girls or a teen program. The program itself had enough merit. It would be truly remarkable indeed if the little sister program was about mentorship, but it is usually about being related to someone on the board etc. How about finding girls who need mentoring? Maybe from single parent families without college background/financial resources? That is what mentorship looks like. " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Larry B. on 02/04/2008 01:34:32 said:

"To Mr Lang, if it was all about jealousy as you state, then why for the first time in this program has there been such an uproar? People are not jealous, they want justice!" (from IP: 70.58.79.201 Source - Edit)

clueless on 02/04/2008 01:33:54 said:

"Yep, might as well listen to your advisor! You can carp all you want, but they will never change their minds nor will they take back a crown (except in the case of Vanessa Williams - the only SUCCESSFUL Miss America in history). Hypocrites! Dan Lang, I have no idea who you are, but I don't think all of the posts on here are from unhappy Auburn girls/moms. Also, poor Miss Rudd will now be poison at Miss Wa. They won't touch her with a ten foot pole if they are smart. So she got what she wants, but not really! Ironic, n'est pas?" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Ladies advisor on 02/04/2008 01:26:53 said:

"All our girls were great I am so proud of them! I am proud each year to see the growth and confidence that they come away with. And then, they get scholarship on top of it. This year is the same with even more of a test to our girls and ourselves. Lets remember the good this program does each year for our girls. I would be so sad to see this program stopped because of this. The big picture is that it has done good things and can continue to do good. Girls, I don't think there is much that can be done, except to be "Flexible and Gracious". Try to take whatever lesson it is we are supposed to get from this and grow from it. People who are reading this and only see the negative, yes this is a tough time for our program, but here is the positive....each year we give out more scholarship money than any other Miss America local program. And this year over 80,000.00? This is a great community AND in incredible program. We just need to work through this." (from IP: 209.91.60.22 Source - Edit)

anonymous on 02/04/2008 01:23:10 said:

"Let us not blame Cara, she slso is a victim of this corruption. Officials of Miss Auburn went out of their way to make sure Cara won so that Auburn would have a player for Miss Washington. It is all about politics. My support goes to the other 23 girls, not Cara!" (from IP: 70.58.79.201 Source - Edit)

Dan Lang on 02/04/2008 01:18:36 said:

"To all of you who are attempting to justify your snide come backs to me. Remember that I am merely answering from what I am observing here. I understand being upset at "the system" of what may be going wrong here, but personally I see a bunch of women, mom's and contestants who are jealous and full of hatred. Do you all really think by boycotting Cara, or treating her badly that you are all proving anything? You are proving that you are a bunch of back biters, and watch out...Ken Schram is known for turning the tables on people In fact, he is probably reading this very forum. Give him more ammo, because if he's smart he is seeing the very thing I am. Jealousy is the root of evil...not Cara Rudd. " (from IP: 76.108.105.68 Source - Edit)

its not the directors fault on 02/04/2008 01:17:58 said:

"i know personally that cara went above our directors to get into this program so please do not be angry with the hamiltons or julie poe they are very respected women in our community and anyone is lucky to come in contact with them" (from IP: 24.22.185.184 Source - Edit)

J Bahr on 02/04/2008 01:12:50 said:

"Bravo, Bravo to all the parents,contestants,sponsors and the Auburn community for standing up to this injustice! Cara Rudd does have talent, however her victory was assured BEFORE the Miss Auburn program even started by corrupt and dirty politics!

The truth will come out, just start looking and wear your boots when all the crap shows up. " (from IP: 70.58.79.201 Source - Edit)

give us the name on 02/04/2008 01:06:56 said:

"Come on, out that Miss WA "official" who swept this under the rug! It's time to name names!" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Mmmm on 02/04/2008 01:05:43 said:

"How much does that title cost? Is it really worth it?" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

a contestant and invested individual on 02/04/2008 01:04:58 said:

"This program is a real big reason why i am the woman i am today ... i looked up to the miss auburns for the past 11 years and they were great role models... such a big portion of our program is based on the little sister program and recruiting more little girls to participate and be mentored... it says something about the title holder when all the inncoent 3rd graders are bawling their eyes out and furious mothers are refusing to have their daughter and/or daughters friends have any contact with miss auburn and the miss auburn program in general. This is really hurting not only the board and the contestants but the future generations. These judgements are not completly based on character or lack there of it but its based on integrity and th eprinciples involved. I have been involved for many years and have known of many shady dealings that have gone on this year. OUr contestants are the most kind hearted and caring women in the state and if they can bring themselves to hug their new queen.. well then she isnt a queen at all... THE LACK OF HUG HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE and its not b/c OH MY GOD CARA IS SO TALENTED we have had world class talent wear our crown and their character gets them support.. it is clear who the real winner is and the reaction that miss rudd recieved was not meant to be cruel but was a family unifying together b/c that is what Miss Auburn is.... We are a family and we have been beaten down by this occurance." (from IP: 24.22.185.184 Source - Edit)

Who? on 02/04/2008 01:02:12 said:

"Who is this Dan Lang?" (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

wondering on 02/04/2008 01:01:33 said:

"Why isn't there a Federal Way pageant? There used to be. So sad. " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Select on 02/04/2008 12:57:38 said:

"Yikes!

Just to clarify, Cara asked for and was granted permission to use the photo for this article. Anyone can ask,it's fine. What was happening was contestants were lifting images from the MASP site and posting them on there on websites without permission. As a sponsor we support all the contestants and are so proud of the girls for there hard work." (from IP: 24.18.12.87 Source - Edit)

old timer on 02/04/2008 12:50:48 said:

"This kind of stuff has been going on in WA State for years! What a joke! For ex. Lynae Thurik was a Miss WA who lived and worked in Oregon (but sold a few ads in WA - yeah that qualified her). The local pageant of the 1st runner up (also named Lynnae) protested, but to no avail (by the way she went on to become Miss WA USA). That was back in the 80's. Of course, Thurik did NOTHING at Miss America (where a talented, intelligent contestant would have made an impact). They (locals and state) will bend rules/rewrite as needed to get who they want. They will offer double titles (in areas like Grays Harbor with only a handful of contestants) instead of working to increase the scholarship dollars awarded. Many of the volunteers involved have never competed and it becomes a sick, vicarious twisted experience for them. They will even encourage girls to run who have no chance (except to embarrass themselves) just so they can sell more show tickets (each girl is "worth" so many seats - friends/family etc.). Too bad for Auburn. They actually have had a good reputation - lots of scholarship money and a reason to crown 2 girls. " (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

observer on 02/04/2008 12:42:20 said:

"Post of the names of the judges here and you will get some great feedback from outside observers! We can let you know ALL of the connections! I have my guesses as to who the judges were, but I need them verified. Seattle was happy not to get stuck with Miss Rudd in either of their two crowned positions." (from IP: 67.40.219.87 Source - Edit)

Parents of other 23 Contestants on 02/04/2008 12:35:24 said:

"To Dan Lang,

You will see that on Thursday night of this week, Cara will be standing alone at the awards ceremony @ Emerald Downs.

The other contestants have vowed to rally behind the real winner, Laura Heng, not Cara.

My how that will be interesting. Mr. Ken Schram has been contacted in regard to awarding the "Scrammie" to the Commitee of Miss Auburn 2008.

Also, King 5 News, and Kiro News 7, have been contacted to lead a formal investigation of the slippery activity within this organization.

The truth will always prevail!!!!!!!!

We do not have room for dirty politics in the city of Auburn. We are sure that the city council members and the honorable Mayor Pete Lewis are in a panic this morning. They should be.

Oh well, what comes around , goes around. Pay backs are hell." (from IP: 74.92.166.132 Source - Edit)

Ummm... seriously?? on 02/04/2008 12:30:03 said:

"Dan Lang.. Please read angry auburn-grown contestant again... I believe that explains everything on why we do not like the person. The board is changing around, so I don't believe that they cared what went on, shame on them.

Everything in there is because of character, and in case you don't recognize it, the whole not being Miss Auburn because they don't want a Miss Washington insults not only the other contestants in the program, but ever other Miss Auburn we have ever had (other than Amber Hamilton).

I'm glad that she shows you one side, and the good side at that, but do not pretend that she is one sided... oh no my little friend, she is definitely more than one sided! and the other side of her fits her very song she sang for competition.. She is wicked through and through!" (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

Poop on 02/04/2008 11:57:56 said:

"To say something ahead of time as a contestant is to jeapordize our chances of getting scholarship money, or as a parent is to jeapordize our own daughters chances of getting scholarship. If she was allowed to force her way in and stay in out of a CLEAR contract breach (no matter the cover-up) then what does that say if someone sticks up for it. They automatically become pregnant in the boards eyes or they used to be a man and they are disqualified. It was a completely unfair thing and she knew exactly what she was doing. I do not feel sorry for her. But like the angry auburn-grown contestant said.. this program has been about achieving personal growth and scholarship, not a title to use for Miss Washington. And that's what we should all try to bring that integrity back to the program before she ruins it by pushing all of our sponsors away!!" (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

Dan Lang on 02/04/2008 11:45:07 said:

"And to you I again say..."take it up with them." Be angry with them if you must, but don't blame Cara and smear her for doing things that place her in positions to go forward. That's why people get ahead in this world. Cara would never intentionally do anything to hurt other people. I know her and her family personally and believe me when I say, it is not in her. She is where she is because she works hard to accomplish things in life. If the committee swayed their votes due to a donation, again...it is them to be mad at not Cara. Please evaluate who it is you really all have the beef with! I think if you looked a little harder, you would find others to take the issue up with. People...please move on with this. Make an appointment with the committee and then leave it for them to sort out. Support the winner and be gracious in it!" (from IP: 76.108.105.68 Source - Edit)

Miss Auburn Advisor. on 02/04/2008 11:10:08 said:

"Dear Dan Lang,

We did go to the proper people. Let me refresh you memory:

A Washington state official with the Miss America Pageant has chose to sweep everything under the carpet,and look the other way, because of a generous donation to line their pockets.

Our local people had no recourse to do anything." (from IP: 74.92.166.132 Source - Edit)

C Palamo on 02/04/2008 09:56:21 said:

"This forum is quickly becoming news! I heard about from a friend. I watched the program and noticed for the first time NO ONE, not a single girl came over to Cara when it was over. That alone says allot, you can't fool the girls. You can't deny what happened. They said it all with their silence. Cara got what she must of deserved or the girls would of came over to her just like every other year. " (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

Dan lang on 02/04/2008 08:30:46 said:

"If there really was an issue here before this thing began, then The parents of the other girls should have gone (BEFORE the competition) straight to the board about their concerns and let them deal with it from that point. If they did this and nothing was said or done, than they can bring it up to the powers above them, or other city officials who could explain or rectify the issue. Instead, you all choose to take the easy way and slam Cara (publicly) and place their anger on her. It's not as if she walked up to the judges and handed them a roll of bills. If she was allowed to enter for this scholarship opportunity, it's because someone on their committee allowed it...and the competition moves on. On the other hand though...if Cara should not have been allowed to enter because of her residency, and the by-laws show this, then something should be done to see why it happened and "who" was responsible. It certainly wasn't Cara though. These people need to all consider their actions for slamming her character in the press just to satisfy their feelings or anger at the "situation" itself. If there was some sort of favoritism then they should seek out who was to blame and go after that person...not Cara. Bottom line is, Cara is talented and bright and competitive. She goes after what she wants! This type of personality goes places in life because of their drive. People should take this as an example; to always press towards what they seek. Cara achieves the things she does because she earns them. This is the person I know and have seen grow up since she was 14.

If someone or some thing caused a slant on the judging or going against the rules, then I hope the parents go to the proper authorities and get it figured out. If that's the case and it's found to be, then the runner up will be rewarded. If not...then I suggest all of the people who commented in this forum step up to the plate and apologize publicly for bashing the character. Oh yeah, but there's a big problem with that theory...that's impossible unless they do it now! I hope Cara finds it in her heart to forgive the people who have made these remarks to her...they are terrible!

" (from IP: 76.108.105.68 Source - Edit)

Miss WA USA Pageant on 02/04/2008 05:08:25 said:

"It was actually the Miss Federal Way USA or Miss Auburn USA title(s) that Cara desired. Yes, USA has different rules and each contestant does pay a fee for the local title and state entrance. Miss Rudd battled for the Miss Federal Way USA title as it was already given to another participant in the WA USA Pageant. Miss Rudd did in fact contribute an amount far more generous than the state entrance fee of $1000. She was declared as Miss Federal Way USA over the other contestant. This contestant was indeed asked to choose another local title to represent that year. It is usually first come, first serve on local titles within WA USA. This however was an exception to the rule. Miss Rudd ended up withdrawing from the WA USA Pageant before the main event. Consequently, forfeiting her Miss Federal Way USA title. The Miss WA USA does acknowledge that the contestant who changed titles on Miss Rudd's behalf was clearly disappointed. Miss Rudd has not returned to the Miss WA USA Pageant." (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

MAO on 02/04/2008 04:28:55 said:

"Becoming a Contestant Fast Facts:

To compete you must -

-Be between the ages of 17 and 24.

-Be a United States citizen.

-Meet residency requirements for competing in a certain town or state.

-Meet character criteria as set forth by the Miss America Organization.

-Be in reasonably good health to meet the job requirements.

-Be able to meet the time commitment and job responsibilities as set forth by the local program in which you compete. "" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

Jamee on 02/04/2008 03:36:06 said:

"I was a contestant in the Miss Auburn pageant a number of years ago. I lived in Federal Way at the time and was told I qualify because there wasn't a Miss Federal Way. Now I didn't win, but because of the wonderful experience I have been involved ever since. A far as I know, this is still a rule and that is why Cara qualified.

All the contestants did an excellent job and everyone is receiving scholarship money! This is why I love the program. Why shouldn't other young ladies deserve a chance to be in the program, if they don't have the opportunity in their city?

Now for the private coaching.... People on the board and others that are volunteers in the program have always offered help to any and everyone that seeks it out. Anyone of the young ladies could ask for extra help with interviews or any phase of competition. It is just a matter of taking advantage of all of us! We would never turn a contestant down if they wanted more help. That is what we are here for. I want every young lady to have the same experience that I had whether they win or not. I don't want this one year to hurt the future of this program, for the contestants sakes. " (from IP: 76.121.65.130 Source - Edit)

attender on 02/04/2008 02:41:03 said:

"Don't know about all the charges but as a musician she was clearly one of the most talented. She can sell a song. Lara Heng not so much a good singer. Not enough talent to represent the city I'm thinking. But then again I don't have any vested interest either. The English horn player was the best musician. And remember folks, talent is 35%." (from IP: 75.172.55.80 Source - Edit)

Auburn Mom on 02/04/2008 02:19:11 said:

"Let me say first that I believe in the Miss Auburn program! It is a wonderful opportunity for young Women to better themselves whether it talent, poise, interview or physically fit. I believe that all take a bit from each category. The Scholarship money is an awesome attribute to bettering ones self. I have followed this program and seen it first hand. I have had a daughter grow through the Little Sister program and then a Daughter as a Contestant. I have watched a tremendous growth it her and to all those who have been her mentors, I thank you! Tonight after reading Nancy's statement I have mixed emotions and will have to think twice before allowing my daughters and others that I know to compete. It is a shame that this was allowed to happen and that it was not stopped at the very beginning. Nancy next time you make a statement, please stick up for the other 23 young women also. They are the ones truly that have been hurt! By you sticking up for Cara and not for all of them, you have done the other Young Women a disgrace. Cara I am sure that you have good qualities and you are very talented. I understand the RULES; I have had the opportunity to read the Contract many times. Maybe this is a wake up call to all those wonderful Sponsors that have contributed Time and Money. I know that I will ask more questions before signing on to something that I may disagree with later.

Girls please don?t let this make you bitter. Money doesn?t buy everything?. As I stood there watching you all on stage pondering what to say to you??. I just want you to know that I am proud of you and your accomplishments. I don?t agree with the outcome! I don?t believe that this many people would be outraged and upset if there wasn?t some truth in all this. As for the Comment by the Volunteer?. I understand your view and good for you! But these Girls went through a lot with each other and you need to validate them too! You would not want them to hug someone or congratulate them, if that is not really how they felt?

I believe everyone has been affected by this. Auburn is a great place to live and even though we may not agree with the out come, we have a great leadership starting with our Mayor who is an incredible Man. It is my hope that from this we can change some of the rules that may not be in Auburns best interest! Stay positive Girls don?t play into the Deep negativism!

To all those who volunteered ??Thank you! I appreciate you and all the time and effort you put into the program. It was a wonderful year in scholarship money! Be Proud!

" (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

Attender of Pageant on 02/04/2008 01:55:45 said:

"Don't know about all the charges but as a musician she was clearly one of the most talented. She can sell a song. Lara Heng not so much a good singer. Not enough talent to represent the city I'm thinking. But then again I don't have any vested interest either. The English horn player was the best musician. And remember folks, talent is 35%. " (from IP: 24.18.23.26 Source - Edit)

heh on 02/04/2008 01:49:38 said:

"she may be a human being, but please do not assume that she was ever sweet or humble with any of the contestants. Do not forget that we ALL are not feeling this way because we are jealous, but because she was rude, inconsiderate, and many other things with us. Fakeness can only go so far, then everyone can see right through it and see the true meaning behind awkward words. I would never post anything I could not say to the person. I just prefer not to associate myself with her long enough to get to that point. Believe me, when the chance comes, i will tell her how I feel." (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

come on girls on 02/04/2008 01:45:19 said:

"if we keep acting like this we are no better than the beast we all claim to be battling so lets give it up and be the respectful woman we know we are. we are getting a little juvenile and i think we all just need to step back and breathe. If we keep acting on impulse and saying these things it will ultimatly hurt future generations in the miss auburn family so everyone lets cool down and be happy will the friends we came away with. I say this to everyone.. lets leave this website alone and if the judges made a mistake it will come out on its own. Goodnight" (from IP: 24.22.185.184 Source - Edit)

Auburn's slogan on 02/04/2008 01:40:02 said:

"Angry Auburn-Grown Contestant is correct! Cara Rudd did walk around nude back stage in front of everyone, including the dancers, singers, contestants and the little sisters. This gives new meaning to Auburn's slogan. "More than you Imagined"" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

Got to love those emails on 02/04/2008 01:37:21 said:

"From:

"Julie Poe"

Data: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:51:31 -0800

EVERYONE....

Ladies,

Dan Diesso, my former boyfriend of four years, is the webmaster of the Miss Auburn site. He will be taking down our website on February 8th due to resigning from the Miss Auburn board. The web donations portion of the site is not owned by Miss Auburn, it?s owned by Dan.

Julie Poe

Yes "boyfriend" do we detect other forms of violations within the organization?

Is Dan the smartest to get out before the sh.. hits the fan?

You go Dan!

" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

anonymous on 02/04/2008 01:33:06 said:

"contestants we are better than this lets just worry about next year and how we can get the prgram back on track we cant change anything but whining about it online so girls let be grown ups and show the judges the type of girl they should have chosen .. there is nothing else we can do ... i love you all." (from IP: 24.22.185.184 Source - Edit)

A contestant on 02/04/2008 01:24:07 said:

"the schrammie well it may be funny but it is laughable....and disrespectful... cara i congratulate you on winning ... i may not agree with the descision but you are very talented and indeed beautiful. I hope that you can do great things in the city and can gain some respect .. you understand that by winning and not being from the city you are at a disadvantage. I just ask that you represent us with class and poise and truthfully . Auburn is like a family and with saying that families can forgive but forgiveness must be earned. I wish you luck with all your endevours and again congratulations" (from IP: 24.22.185.184 Source - Edit)

2008 Contestant on 02/04/2008 01:22:22 said:

"Nancy,

I know you got this email. It says that Julie CC'd you and Donna on it. Why would you send it out to all of us contestants the same week this Federal Way article is posted if Cara did not violate the contrat?

Are you squirming? Is that why you wrote a novel to defend the very Queen that your daughter, Lucky, cried about?

From:

Julie Poe"

CC:

"Donna Hamilton"

hamiltondjp@comcast.net,

"Backus, Nancy K"

Data: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:34:09 -0800

Ladies,

You are NOT to speak to any form of the press without a director involved?.EVER. You are NOT to use Select Photography?s pictures without prior written consent from Bill Higdon? EVER. If you have done so, take them off the internet. We support Bill?s business by sending him paying customers if you wish to obtain photos, please contact him directly. What he has provided and will provide to you (a free 8 x 10 pic) is a donation and all at his expense. Please do not assume that any service that has been provided to you is free after the fact. Bill and Jackie Holden give discounts and their services to MASP are free, beyond that, they are not.

Julie Poe

" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

2008 Contestant on 02/04/2008 01:12:55 said:

"Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:34:09 -0800

Ladies,

"You are NOT to speak to any form of the press without a director involved?.EVER. You are NOT to use Select Photography?s pictures without prior written consent from Bill Higdon? EVER. If you have done so, take them off the internet. We support Bill?s business by sending him paying customers if you wish to obtain photos, please contact him directly. What he has provided and will provide to you (a free 8 x 10 pic) is a donation and all at his expense. Please do not assume that any service that has been provided to you is free after the fact. Bill and Jackie Holden give discounts and their services to MASP are free, beyond that, they are not."

Julie Poe

Thanks Julie, Donna, and especially you NANCY. Don't you just love technology?" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

im not bashing but am angry on 02/04/2008 01:04:25 said:

"I am not going to bash or degrade anyone.... I do agree with the statement about the other girls. nancy backus is very respectable and no noe should be commenting on her behavior.

However i do agree that judging is wack there were many girls that deserved this title and weren't really given a fair chance so if you are going to defend cara please defend all girls. thanks" (from IP: 24.22.185.184 Source - Edit)

Nomination for a Schrammie on 02/04/2008 12:53:39 said:

"Dear Ken,

We would like to nominate the Miss Auburn Scholarship Pageant board for a ?Schrammie?. Julie Poe, Co-Executive Director, Donna Hamilton, Co-Executive Director, Nancy Karr Backus, President, and Mike Hamilton, Vice President. Oh and let?s not forget Mayor Pete Lewis.

As you may know, the Miss Auburn Scholarship Program is the largest and most successful local programs in our nation. It is the Auburn community, who provide the financial opportunities and volunteer hours to support this program.

The Pageant board reads out loud in detail the ?Miss Auburn? contract empathizing strict adherence to the rules and regulations. Once the contestants signs and notarizes the contract they go through an application/interview process and a 3 month learning experience.

Miss Auburn 2008, Cara Rudd was crowned last night. It came as no surprise to the other 23 that participated. During the past 3 months these young women have witnessed Cara Rudd break many of the rules and regulations with out being disqualified. Such as placing an article in the Federal Way News to solicit personal scholarship donations, displaying defiant behavior which was rewarded with private interview coaching with the co-executive director and the vice president of the pageant. None of the other contestants were given such compensation.

The pageant board promised each contestant a very challenging few months and they most certainly did. These contestants learned that it doesn?t matter how hard they try, or how much effort they put into their interviews, talents and poise, the contestant that has the most $ and breaks the most rules is the winner. They learned how corrupt the Miss Auburn Scholarship Pageant can be. Ken, you should have been there. None of the 23 contestants swarmed Rudd as is customary, instead they swarmed the 1st runner up.

It would be wonderful if you could present the ?Schrammie? during the Scholarship Awards Ceremony on Thursday, February 7, 2008 ? 7:00 p.m. at Emerald Downs.

" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

Volunteer with Miss Auburn on 02/04/2008 12:50:40 said:

"Okay, so seriously...you guys really need to stop. This is a human being we're talking about...she has real feelings and how does she feel reading this? I truly felt bad for her last night....after her crowning NO ONE would go near her. Last year when Devanni won she was hugged, rushed off the stage by the director's etc and then brought out to the lobby. After the show was over I saw Cara way in the back alone with her family...then I ran into her in the green room with her mother and she looked so sad. She just had this look of saddness on her face. So, she deserved a hug and that's what I gave her.

So, how would you feel if you were being slammed like this on a website?? Sure, I may not know how she is, but this is who the judges felt would be a GREAT representitive of Auburn AND she was very very polished, poised, and very talented on stage. You must admit she had one of THE BEST talents. Sure, I know that's not what it's all about but if you listened to her on stage question then you'd understand...she did great in EVERY phase of competition...So, you all need to quit your bickering and move on...we will crown a new one next year, let Cara have her moment.

" (from IP: 24.18.11.90 Source - Edit)

so mad on 02/04/2008 12:15:21 said:

"Nancy, I respect you, but if you are going to defend a horrible person, please defend the other 23 amazing girls. " (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

angry parent on 02/04/2008 12:12:06 said:

"Dear Nancy Backus, Tell me, if the Judges are so honest why is there such an outrage with the general public?

Many people who wrote here don't even have any childern in the program. Even some of your sponsors are angry!

" (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

Victoria on 02/04/2008 12:05:03 said:

"I must agree with anonymous Miss Shari. You try and go on stage with all eyes on you. Miss Auburn is not just about talent. I would not have the guts myself to do what they did.

I do agree however that the selection of Cara Rudd is a slap in the face to all the other girls who played fair and by the rules. This program will never seem fair again as long as Cara is Miss Lies, I mean Miss Auburn." (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

Nancy Backus, President, Miss Auburn Scholarship Program on 02/04/2008 12:00:03 said:

" I am hoping to address the rumors and mistruths that have been posted here and replace them with truths. First, Cara Rudd qualified in our program under the "Next Closest Local" guideline - as required through the Miss America Organization. While it is unusual for our program to have contestants that do not live, work or attend school full-time in Auburn, it does happen. Usually, during the applicant phase of our program, we have enough Auburn applicants to fill all of the available openings that we have for our sponsors. This year, we had two young ladies that qualify under the Next Closest Local rule, and we had enough sponsors to allow their participation in our program. We value our sponsors tremendously. I'd be more than happy to talk with any of the sponsors who are disappointed or would like additional information.

I?ve worked with the Miss Auburn Scholarship Program (MASP) for 29 years, and am committed to providing scholarships for all of the young women that participate in our program. The integrity of our program is first and foremost in my mind as well as in the minds of our board of directors and volunteers. We have worked very hard to earn the trust and respect of our community and will continue to work hard to keep it.

There has been NO contract violation by Cara. While the MASP board should definitely have been informed of the article prior to being published, if you notice, there are absolutely NO quotes attributed to Cara in the article. All of the information was available via our website, where we posted information on all 24 of our contestants. She did receive a photo release from Select Photography, so, again, no violations contractual or legal! I truly wish that the Federal Way News would have taken the time to do an article on ALL of the contestants, but that unfortunately didn?t occur. We would welcome an opportunity to spotlight all of our contestants next year!

I am really confused as to how anyone would knows that Cara argued with and yelled at the panel of judges during her private interview. I was in the room during her interview, and I can assure you that there were NO arguments and she certainly did not ?fail? her interview! Those interviews are closed to the public - only the contestant, judges, judges' chairperson, Executive Directors and President are allowed in the room. All of the contestants were offered the opportunity to work with our Interview Chair for extra interview practice. Many of them used that opportunity - including Cara, but certainly not limited to Cara!

Not everyone is going to be happy with the selection of the volunteer judges ? any year, this one included. I can assure you that they are NOT paid or paid off! As I stated, I?ve been involved for 29 years and have not always agreed with the final outcome, but I am committed to our contestants, our program and all that it stands for!

Cara is a very talented and accomplished young woman. I have no doubt that she will work very hard to earn the respect of the Auburn community during her year of service as Miss Auburn. Will it be easy? NO, but the MASP volunteers are dedicated to providing a quality experience for all involved.

" (from IP: 130.76.32.144 Source - Edit)

Past Miss Auburn 199- on 02/03/2008 11:41:35 said:

"I'm so ashamed and embarrassed at the obvious poor judging this year! I'm so sorry girls! We all know who the REAL Miss Auburn for 2008 is,Laura Heng!

Cara Rudd should step down for cheating! (and she did cheat) Girls, the truth will come out! Don't be discouraged for next year. Boycot Cara!" (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

Randy Bless on 02/03/2008 11:25:21 said:

"I just came to watch both nights because my wife's best friends daughter was in the program. I have no prejudices as to who won or not. I can tell you this, I believe the judges sure got it wrong! I can understand why people are so angry. This looks and smells of a fixed pagent. It was very obvious even to me. Can I be a Judge next year? I could use the money." (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

anonymous on 02/03/2008 11:23:30 said:

"wellll my dear sherri olsen. Before you go attacking other contestants and their talents , why dont you put on a tutu and prance around the stage like the real monkey you are. If you think that by degrading the other contestants your going to make you or cara feel any better your wrong. NO ONE HAS DENYED THAT CARA IS TALENTED AND BY STATING THE COMMENT ABOUT THEM BEING THE ONLY TALENT IS APPALING . Your either blind or tone deaf ... hell your probably both... CARA IS TALENTED NO ONE IS DENYING THAT ALRIGHT? I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE and get off the stage . the 24 girls that competed last night were all brave enough to put themselves on that stage and until you can do that i would keep your judgmental comments to yourself and realize that no one has said that cara does not have talent. That is not was dissapoints us auburn locals... if miss auburn was strctly and talented girl CARA WOULD BE THE JACKPOT but Miss auburn is so much more than talent its called Miss Auburn for a REASON and Im sorry that you dont agree with that." (from IP: 24.22.185.184 Source - Edit)

Angry Parent 2 on 02/03/2008 11:15:28 said:

"I will not allow my daughter to participate next year in this corrupt program. Cara Rudd as Miss Auburn is an insult to all the other girls who play by the rules. What I want to know is how much did it take to pay off the judges? My daughter will not be there in 2009, However I will. I will be the one holding the sign out front telling it like it really is. Fraud and lies!" (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

one local sponsor on 02/03/2008 11:04:30 said:

"I have been a faithful sponsor for the Miss Auburn program for years. Even I could not believe the terrible judging this year. The selection of Cara Rudd is a slap in the face to all the girls who participated this year! In protest, for my girl, and for the rest of the young ladies I will NOT be a sponsor no longer in this fixed program. I hope other sponsors will follow our protest. Time to get new judges and make this program honest again! As for me and my money so long Miss Auburn program!" (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

hopeful on 02/03/2008 10:59:58 said:

"I am not sure what went wrong last night. What I do know is that this program has helped so many young women not only earn scholarship money, but teaches them so many skills that they can take with them thru life. I have seen how they grow in confidence. I have always loved how the community and local businesses comes together to support our girls, I have always been proud of this. I truly hope we can work through this for the future girls who need and can benefit from this program. And for the person saying this is jealousy, I don't believe that is so, I know the girls would have supported any other contestant winning. They are wonderful, bright and talented women and to say Cara and Kathrine were the only really talented ones is EXTREMELY unfair. You obviously didn't listen or watch the whole program. As harsh as all of these things being said are what it comes down to is supposed to be picking the best girl to represent Auburn. Hopefully the board can fix this so we can come back stronger and better and more focussed on what this is supposed to be about, our girls. " (from IP: 209.91.60.22 Source - Edit)

Angry Auburn-Grown Contestant on 02/03/2008 10:57:38 said:

"As far as names go, who cares if we put our names, we are either parents of contestants or contestants ourselves who want to RETURN for the spirit of Auburn and the wonderful scholarship opportunities and PERSONAL growth. I have made it quite clear to her that I do not respect her. I have gotten to "know" the real Cara. She is evil. Let?s start with how I came to my conclusion: She argued with the mayor of the very town she is, for now, representing by the second practice; insulting a wonderful city council woman because she thought that she was smarter than someone with 3 times the experience. Comments such as "I don't think I?ll win Miss Auburn because they don't want someone who will win Miss Washington"; doing an article about her and not the entire scholarship program or the contestants. For example, her link... goes to her page, not the home page; going to the board of Miss Washington to push the Miss Auburn Program to allow her in. I'm sorry, but I believe that those that need the growth and scholarship should be allowed. Every college that she has on her resume either doesn't exist, changed its name over 6 years ago, or she spelt it wrong. She was extremely rude to the only ladies advisor that would accept her. And her ladies advisor is one of the best and would do anything for anyone. She walked around nude in the back putting everyone from the dancers, singers, contestants and the little sisters of the program in an awkward stage throughout the whole experience. I believe it is in the Miss Auburn job description that she must be approachable, and I'm sorry, but anyone who refuses to put clothes ON is not approachable. She also needs to be beautiful from the INSIDE-OUT!!! And that definitely has not happened once while in the program with her. She lied in every single Sunday interview, saying that she volunteered in an elementary school "on the hill"? which hill?? There is more than one and they each have elementary schools on them, but she wouldn?t know that considering she doesn?t take the time to know Auburn. The fact that she is from another city is so small compared to everything else. 3 of the top 5 were from a different city. And 4 of the top 5 were outstanding women who I would have been proud to represent Auburn. I would have to say that you "named" people are right, she is determined and she does get what she wants, but it honestly doesn't matter to you how she gets it, does it? She paid over twice the amount to get the Des Moines title for the Miss Washington USA pageant and quit. By the way, she was Miss Federal Way before she bought the other title, funny how she runs back to Federal Way to break her contract with the Miss Auburn Program. I have followed the contract the whole time as did every single other contestant #1-23. I do not mind that I didn?t win; I just mind that she did. She is sincerely the most insincere person I have ever met. And please understand that I am a very honest and blunt person. I think actions speak louder than twisted words ever could! And that was shown at the coronation of the new Miss Auburn when we all did swarm Laura Heng. She didn?t even get the picture with the mayor!!! It?s not that we tried to find things that were wrong with Cara, they presented themselves just fine by themselves, it is the fact that not one of us enjoyed being around her. I am glad that she has swooned others, either family or friends of how great she is, because she will need their support when her title is revoked. I will be writing to Miss America and Miss Washington to let them know of the contract breach that would have been an immediate release of any other of the esteemed contestants that deserve that crown and the title of Miss Auburn more than she does. In fact, that contract breach and immediate release was practiced last year. With such an uprising of contestants, parents, sponsors, and citizens of Auburn, this problem will be fixed! It is unfortunate that Laura will not get her crowning moment but if everything goes the way it should have in the first place, we will use the first runner up rule and Laura will represent Auburn beautifully. I love you Laura!!" (from IP: 67.183.32.201 Source - Edit)

Dsigusted Parent of Whole Pageant! on 02/03/2008 10:40:05 said:

"Shari Olsen, give it a rest !

We can all stand the heat, can you? All of the other contestants were on the up and up, and stayed within the bounds of the Miss America contract that they signed and followed.

We repeat, it was noted in the very beginning, that Cara does not reside, work, or go to school in Auburn!

This is the # 1 disqualification of the Auburn pageant.

Maybe you better get your facts straight

before junping into to something you know nothing about.

You have not been behind the curtain on stage with this monster.

It is fact to the parents that a state representative with the Miss America Pageant did take a pay-off to keep it quiet about Cara not living, working, or going to school in the city of Auburn. This is a pre-requisite for the Auburn pageant.

Unfortuneatly, in defense of Donna & Mike Hamilton, they could not do anything about kicking her out of the program. They were told, "to ignore this fact with Cara". An official above them with the state pulled rank. Rumor has it that Donna & Mike are not going to be involved in the pageant next year. They are extremely frustrated and upset as well.

See, even the Executive Directors of the Miss Auburn Pageant have no power from Cara Rudd, her parents, and their dirty money!

We are hearing that Tami Bothel is taking over for next season. (Bothel Brothers Chevrolet). Tami, we as the 2008 parents wish you luck! We all love you and hope this horrible mess will stop. We will do everything to help support you in bringing this program back to what it used to be.

Hang in there!

" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

Shari Olsen on 02/03/2008 08:41:22 said:

"There seems to be allot of jealousy out there for Cara. She and the girl who played the cello were the ONLY ones who had any clear talent out there. If you can stand the heat, stay off the stage!" (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

J Russell on 02/03/2008 08:36:16 said:

"Cara Rudd shows that money can buy anything including the Miss Auburn crown. This is a very sad year for the program. This kind of black eye hurts the integrity of the program. Spend your money fast Judges!" (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

Steve Smith on 02/03/2008 08:27:47 said:

"Wow, this was the worst display of judging in all my years associated with the Miss Auburn program. Cara Rudd is not even an Auburn girl! I wonder who is paying off the Judges?

" (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

Dilly Dirts on 02/03/2008 08:07:18 said:

"This has been a very sad day for the Miss Auburn program. In the last seven years since I have followed the program, never have I seen such an outrageous display of poor judging. In an effort to be politically correct the judges have sold their soul to the devil. It was so obvious that I can no longer support this program. I can now take my donation to a far more worthy and fair cause. To all you judges, SHAME ON YOU. Hell should reserve a special spot for all of you!" (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

furious citizen ll on 02/03/2008 07:42:17 said:

"Judges at Miss Auburn: Shame on all of you! It sure looks and smells like this program is a set-up.Is #24 always given to the "lucky" girl? After last night it even looks like the Miss Auburn powers that run this racket are in on it. It is so obvious that you give #24 to your pick for winner. Well you all (judges and Miss Auburn folks) picked a real winner last night. This toxic winner is your problem now. You are staining your program with a "buy out". Your Miss Auburn Darling is not even a Auburn girl. Well, you need to address this Don't try to sweep this under your rug. dearies. " (from IP: 24.18.39.127 Source - Edit)

Mad Parent on 02/03/2008 06:26:17 said:

"My my Dr. Brown, have the parents of the other contestants stuck a nerve with you?

Fot the sake of all the other contestants, the "2008 Miss Auburn coalition committee to bring justice and integrity back to our program, cannot devulge our names this week. Our young women are receiving their scholarsips on Thursday night @ Emerald Downs. To give our names on the blog at this time would jeopardize the academic monies for our daughters.

All you have to do is look at the program, you have all our names as parents.

It's a shame to know that corruption of this sort, continues to excel in our wonderful, local pageant.

FYI- All the contestants knew that Cara also received private coaching and directing from the head of the organization and her husband the past several months, this was no secret.

This against the by laws of the Miss America contract as well.

Everyone should have pulled out at that time, but they all were suckered in to this fairy tale of a program.

Laura Heng is the true Miss Auburn 2008!

You ask any of the other women, and they will agree!

All of the women have vowed not to congratulate her this week at the awards ceremony. How will the litle miss Sweetie respnd to this situation.

Our young women are a far better judge of character about Cara than you are. She obviously shows you the side she wants you to see.

Try working with the little back stabber and witch for several months.

She showed every one how not to act in a Christian manner.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

" (from IP: 71.227.185.178 Source - Edit)

anonymous on 02/03/2008 04:46:44 said:

"I am not going to sign my name.. not for lack of spine but for the sake of the city . Cara Rudd Is a talented girl you have to give her that. I am not going to nor have i bashed cara's personality.. Im sure that in the privacy of her own home nad/or with friends and family cara is very compassionate and caring and all the things you have said ... however... you mr. lang and any others who WERE NOT AROUND WHEN THE CURTAIN WENT DOWN.. do not know the personality and traits in which miss rudd portrays. Unfortunatly the caring compassionate woman you spoke of did not make an appearance the last 3 months during the miss auburn program. I would however appreciate it if people would stop insulting other contestants who did not win nor place.